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Intelligent Life Spotted in a High School English Department

Postby MasterThief on Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:47 pm

Finally, FINALLY, FINALLY... someone seems to be getting it. Money Quotes:

"Butchering." That's what one of my former students, a young man who loves creative writing but rarely gets to do any at school, called English class. He was referring to the endless picking apart of linguistic details that loses teens in a haze of "So what?" The reading quizzes that turn, say, "Hamlet" into a Q&A on facts, symbols and themes. The thesis-driven essay assignments that require students to write about a novel they can't muster any passion for ("The Scarlet Letter" is high on teens' list of most dreaded). I'll never forget what one parent, bemoaning his daughter's aversion to great books after she took AP English Literature, wrote to me: "What I've seen teachers do is take living, breathing works of art and transform them into dessicated lab specimens fit for dissection."


And naturally, guess what the younguns are liking:

One of my recent juniors was particularly eloquent on the subject. After having sat in my classroom for a year forcefully projecting his boredom, he started an e-mail dialogue with me over the summer. "The reason for studying fiction escapes me," he wrote. "Why waste time thinking about fabricated situations when there are plenty of real situations that need solutions? Cloning, ozone depletion, and alternate fuels are a few of the countless problems that need to be addressed by the next generation, my generation."

Okay, you may think, this is a kid geared to excel in history and science, not literature. But read his closing words: "Granted fiction has a place in this world, but it is not in the classroom. It is beside the night lamp next to your bed, the car ride to the beach, the soft glow of a fireplace. Fiction is about spending beautiful days indoors because you can't wait to get to the next page. Because I like science fiction, my Shakespeare, my Fitzgerald, my Dickinson are Haldeman, Asimov, Herbert. They dare me to think and question my beliefs."

...I'm not suggesting that every 11th-grade English teacher adopt "Catcher in the Rye," drop Shakespeare or ride the multicultural bandwagon. But if we really want to recruit teen readers, we're going to have to be strenuous advocates for fresh and innovative reading incentives. If that means an end to business as usual -- abolishing dry-bones literature tests, cutting back on fact-based quizzes, adding works of science fiction or popular nonfiction to the reading list -- so be it. We can continue to alienate teen readers, or we can hear them, acknowledge their tastes, engage directly with their resistance to serious reading and move gradually, with sensitivity to what's age-appropriate, toward the realm of great literature.


Sweet honeybee of infinity, at last someone who understands that great books become great because they resonate the emotions of readers, not the synapses of academics.

I just spent the summer going back through some of the the old classics of SF and speculative fiction. If the point of a literature class is to get students to appreciate good storytelling, characterization, and plot, then why the bloody hell is so much of what students to read so horribly dry? (ESPECIALLY the "multicultural" stuff).

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"No reason to get excited," the thief, he kindly spoke...
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Re: Intelligent Life Spotted in a High School English Department

Postby ytimynona on Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:22 pm

I actually am currently considering being a high school English teacher... not because I want to do better than my own teachers, but rather because I had such excellent ones who understood that literature is about loving the language and the words, not about picking it apart! Their passion for reading was contagious, and they let the students lead the discussions on the books we read, making the class about us, not about remembering random facts!!!

I have made so many friends in college who hate reading because their high school or junior high English teachers ruined it for them, that I want to go out into the teaching world and change it!!!

(Right now I'm working on getting my license to teach physics, but how hard can it be to go back and get certified to teach one more subject???)
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Re: Intelligent Life Spotted in a High School English Department

Postby Domini on Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:45 pm

I think that the academic subject of English is trying too hard to be a science--it's trying to be as analytical as math or science is, and to be honest it's not. English and writing is an art. Everyone uses English. Sure, you can break down sentences into verbs, nouns, adverbs, and more, but when it comes to daily use, people speak and write due to their gut instincts...as an art. They internalize the rules of speaking English. It's not that I don't think people should learn how to spell and use punctuation, spelling and punctuation takes the place of pauses and tones and body language in speech, but the fruitless search for symbolism is going too far, particularly when it's using a book that kids don't care about in the first place, and looking for symbolism that perhaps the author didn't even intend to put there. I bet if they whipped out the Harry Potter books, kids would just love to crawl over them and analyze them. Heck, if a teacher found a Harry Potter fan forum, they could grab a particularly good fan debate to look at...fans are experts at breaking down stories in an interesting way. Harry Potter alone could open up discussions about Latin, racial conflicts, social conflicts, mythology, and more.

I also think that the looming presence of Parents on the PTA are a driving force in why kids are never assigned interesting genre works. I mean, Mark Twain's works still get some boo-hooing due to the use of the "N word". But they are now a "classic" so the teachers can use that as a shield against over-zealous parents. "It has dirty words in it!" "But it's a classic!" You can't use that excuse for the latest-and-greatest on the Bestseller list. But if they did showcase some modern, not necessarily future-classic-material genre fiction (crime, thriller, mystery, fantasy, sci-fi, etc.), it would be much easier to get people to read.
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Re: Intelligent Life Spotted in a High School English Department

Postby Andrea on Fri Dec 26, 2008 7:25 pm

I have a story about non-intelligent life in a college English Department.
The Scene: me, in my first semester of college, at a private college in Boston, taking English 101
The Professor: a nervous graduate student

The professor assigned us a paper at the beginning of the class, to "compare and contrast two pieces of literature". Simply that, she didn't say it had to be by anyone in particular or limited to an era. There were guidelines, now forgotten, about what aspects of the works we were to compare exactly. It was a five page paper, which made most of the class groan. Given this free rein, I went wild. I had just re-read "On the Road by Kerouac, and decided to read all of his works and find two to compare. I found and read ten of his novels. I was immersed in Kerouac and his life. I finally decided to write a comparison of "Maggie Cassidy" a story of an early teenage love of his, and "Tristessa", about a junkie prostitute. Feverishly, I compared and contrasted the works, the style, where the author was at in the time frame captured in these autobiographical novels. I also consulted biographies and commentary about the author. I had about 5 references besides the two books that I compared.

One week before the paper was due, I walked proudly up to my professor and asked if it was OK to submit the paper early. I was so excited to have her read this paper I had sweated over. She glanced at the title page and said, "these works aren't from the anthology." The dreaded Anthology, one of the Norton Anthologies of English Literature. I protested, "you never said it had to be from the Anthology." The professor claimed that she had, a few weeks earlier when I was out with the flu. "You can't expect me to grade a paper based on ANY two pieces of literature," she scoffed, when I showed her the assignment as listed in the syllabus. The rest of the class was uninterested, this class was where they staggered, reluctantly, between frat parties.

I went home and found the two most insipid poems I could find by my most hated poet, Emily Dickinson. I wrote a paper comparing and contrasting these poems, in a scathing yet grammatical fashion, meeting all the criteria for the paper. I dropped the paper on her desk the next morning. "Is it still Ok to turn in the paper early?" I asked. The professor was shocked I had finished a new paper so quickly. I told her the assignment was hardly challenging, and that I had done further work to make it less dull. I asked if she would like to read the original paper as well, written before she changed the rules on me. "I don't have time for that, I have thirty students in each of my classes!" she replied. "Your loss," I said. I received an A+ on the paper, with a note asking why I hated Dickinson so much. I don't really care much about poor Emily, she was merely the punching bag on which I pounded my frustration.

The remainder of my classes that year were as pathetic as that English class. At the end of the year I transferred to a public college for financial reasons. Ironically, there I found the academic rigor that was lacking at the first school. I found professors and students that cared, often passionately, about what they studied! Best thing that could have ever happened to me.

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Re: Intelligent Life Spotted in a High School English Department

Postby COD on Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:47 pm

I took a sci-fi class my junior year (1983/4) in high school. We read Canticle for Leibowitz, Foundation, Stranger in a Strange Land, a bunch of short stories, and we played a Gamma Word every week, a D&D spinoff set in a post-apocalyptic future. We had to write a weekly journal of our characters activities in the game. It was easily the coolest class I took in high school.
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Re: Intelligent Life Spotted in a High School English Department

Postby Andrea on Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:38 am

Wow, I would have loved that class! Cool high school.
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